Kansas City Zoo Photo Club Meeting Minutes

May 21, 2001


Dan Paulsen called the meeting to order around 7:30 p.m. He explained that tonight our program was on the recent Wolf Park trip taken by several members. We will have some slides, and several folks also brought prints from the Wolf Park trip. At the end of the meeting, we will break and have a chance to walk around and view the pictures. Barbara Chase also brought a 55-minute video of the trip that she made; she is selling copies of it for $5 each!

Dan called for any old business. Badges were discussed extensively. Bill Pasek said he made some contacts, but everyone wanted more specifics before they would quote a price. Do we want a photo on the badges? It was decided that we did not, as that would be too hard to get everyone together and get all pictures taken. Jim Rendina said he thought we wanted badges just like we have now, only with the person’s name appearing larger.

At Kinko’s, we can get the badges laminated with a clip for $1.25 each. Jim said he could easily print up the badges on his computer. Any company that does the badges for us will charge a set-up fee, and if we have to get more badges made later as new members join, we will have to pay the set-up fee again. Jim said he thought it would be best to create a template of the badge with all but the person’s name on it and have the club buy some heavy card stock that he can print the badges up on. Jim will add names and then print and cut the badges. That way, the only expense will be buying the card stock and getting them laminated with a clip.

We then discussed the prototype to use for the badges. The kangaroo symbol was discussed; do we want to keep it? Yes, it is the camera club symbol. What about the color of the badge? The group agreed that bright yellow or a little lighter is fine. Wayne Hickox said he would update the member list and e-mail it to Jim.

Marie Bohndorf moved that Jim buy the card stock, make up the template as specified, and print the badges. Bill seconded the motion, and it passed with no opposition.

The camera club Web site was then discussed. Jim asked if anyone needed help getting his or her zoo photos onto our Web site. Do you need help with scanning or doctoring any images? Wayne said that he might.

Jim said that some images had been on the site for a couple of months. We need to get some new ones out there. He’d like to get 30 to 40 new images, and move the older ones. Wayne asked if this was to be a permanent collection. Will we move older ones off altogether, or just to the bottom of the page? Jim said we can get many images on a page, so we could just move the older ones to the bottom. Wayne pointed out that he’d like to see all species at the zoo represented on the Web page. Everyone agreed that would be neat but a big project!

Jim said we also should discuss the size of the images. Some are large and some are smaller. Why not resize them so they are all the same?

Wayne asked why the name of the animal didn’t appear with the image. Tracy Goodrich pointed out that she included the names of the animals or saved the images by the animal name when she sent them in, and if you click on the image on the Web site, it opens a larger window where the name appears below the image. But Wayne said he put the names of the animals on his along with his name, and they didn’t show up.

Tracy said she thought it would be nice if we someday have an index of animals, and if you click on the animal name, you would be taken to a picture of that animal.

The group discussed walk-throughs and trips. A walk-through at the zoo would give us more pictures to put on the Web page. We could use print film and then easily scan the images into the computer for the site. Scanning was discussed briefly. Wolf Camera will scan images in along with processing for $3.49. Someone else said the cost to get a CD of scanned images was $1.49 per image, with a minimum fee of $16.98, if you don’t do it at the time of processing. A member pointed out that it costs about $20 for 13 images on a disk. It is considerably cheaper if you get the CD and the processing done all at the same time.

Jim said we could each shoot a couple of rolls of prints on a walk-through and each get a few shots to submit for the Web site. What if we want to shoot slides? Wayne prefers to shoot slides and get them processed at Fuji in Arizona.

Gary Gingrich, one of our guests this evening, said he uses the CD Factory on Cambridge for slides. The actual CD is $20, and there is also a charge per image. But it can hold 100 images. For 35mm slides, they charge $1.15 a slide, but they do drum scanning, which is very high quality. He had 100 slides put on CD for about $120. While that is not cheap, the advantage is you get each image in five different resolutions. Dan said Wolf Camera gave him three different resolutions for his images on the CD.

Marie noted that you can send your slides to the Slideprinter in Colorado to get prints made; they are reasonably priced. She said it might be cheaper to do that and then scan the prints.

Jim encouraged even those who prefer slides to just use one roll of print film for a walk-through. You can then take the roll to Wal-Mart or elsewhere and get it processed for about $6. Bring three or four of your best prints to him and he will scan them in for you. This way you won’t have to get a CD. It takes him 15 seconds to scan a print and put it in his computer. If everyone did this, we would have 75 or so new pictures to put on our Web page. This would be the easiest and cheapest way.

When shall we do a walk-through? The weekend after Memorial Day was suggested. We discussed a walk-through on Saturday, June 2, but that is the weekend of Jazzoo, so it’s probably not the best weekend. The group agreed on Saturday, June 9, instead. We can park at Zoo Ops and meet here before taking off. Marie will check on going in the back gate and if that is still okay. We should meet at 8 a.m., and then we can divide up into small groups and pick an area to shoot. Jim said he would have badges by then. Jim asked everyone to bring his or her prints from the walk-through to the next meeting.

The zoo also has Sunset Safaris in the summer – it is open for extended hours on Thursday evenings from June 7 through August. It stays open until 8:30 p.m.

The group moved on to new business. Dan said we have a couple of new guests tonight. He introduced them and asked them to tell us a little about themselves. Sheri Stanberry said she belongs to the Kansas City Metro Photography Association. Carole Martin suggested that she attend our meeting. She loves animals and is a FOTZ member.

Gary Gingrich said he is also a FOTZ member and has been for eight to nine years. He is a commercial photographer who does everything except weddings. He likes to take architectural, animal, and people shoots. Zoos are a hobby of his. He has a Web site – www.gingrichphotography.com. Go to the “bizland” link to see the greatest variety of images.

Tracy Goodrich said she is selling tickets for a raffle to raise money for Partners in Conservation (PIC), a group the KC Zoo Docents support that helps protect mountain gorillas in Uganda and Rwanda and helps the indigenous people there (including supporting an orphanage for children of victims of the recent genocide). She is selling tickets to a 1970 National Geographic magazine that has an article about and cover photo of Dian Fossey. The magazine is autographed by the photographer Bob Campbell. Tickets are $3 each or 4 for $10. See Tracy if you’d like to buy tickets. (Winner will be drawn at the docent meeting on August 14.)

Powell Gardens is having an event about “big bugs”. These are 12 gigantic wooden insect sculptures. They are on display from May 19 through August 19. The ant weighs 700 pounds and the praying mantis, 1200 pounds!

Wayne asked if anyone went to the digital photography club meeting that Jim announced last time. Jim missed it because he was out of town. Wayne said that if Jim finds out the club has actually formed, he is interested and would like to know.

Terry Fretz and Wayne are on the Senior Arts Council. There is a $10 membership fee to exhibit artwork. You must be 50 years old or older. See one of them if you are interested.

Because summer daylight hours are approaching, by next month’s meeting it will be difficult to show slides and get the full impact in our present location. It was suggested that for our June meeting, we have a short 30-minute meeting inside and then go to the Deramus building area and shoot flowers and other subjects around there. There are water lilies and other water plants around the building. Marie got permission to do this. The group agreed that this was a good idea.

Bill suggested that we could have a meeting on some Thursday night for a walk-through at the zoo instead of one of the Monday night meetings this summer. (Tracy suggested that if we do this, we pick a date far enough out to allow plenty of advance notice and warnings to members that that Monday meeting has been moved to Thursday.) After some discussion, Bill moved that we have the July meeting on the third Thursday in July for a Sunset Safari walk-through of the zoo instead of the Monday meeting that month. Marie seconded the motion, and it passed. We will meet here on Thursday, July 19. Be here at 7 p.m. sharp, as we will start promptly at 7 in order to get some shooting in before the zoo closes at 8:30 p.m. There will be a large announcement about this in the next newsletter or so.

Marie has worked on a list of 21 places around Kansas City to take pictures. For example, Kaufman Memorial Gardens at 4800 Rockhill Road is open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. They have many plants there. The Department of Conservation is building a new learning center that will open in October and include seven acres of gardens. Also, Marie saw information about Parkville Nature Center in the newspaper, and it looks nice. It is below Park College on Highway 9. (Wayne suggested going on a cool day, as it is very humid, and Sheri said it is very hilly but has nice waterfalls, etc.) Maple Woods Park is wonderful in the fall, with possibly the largest stand of sugar maples west of the Mississippi. Marie will give the list to Barbara to include in the newsletter.

Marie said that Ollie MacMillen has all the slides the camera club took for the zoo last year filed now. She will do a program to show some of them at an upcoming meeting sometime.

We started the slide show at around 8:15 p.m. Dan said several club members (he, Crystal Nederman, Libby McCord, and Suzanne Busby) came out two weeks ago to take behind-the-scenes shots of the zoo’s chimps. They then toured the rest of the zoo and took photos. Chris and Dan were on top of the observation building and got some good shots of chimps in the trees – one chimp posed for about ten minutes, then mooned them and came down! Libby and Suzanne were inside the building, and the glass had just been cleaned. Dan showed slides of this outing.

Terry showed the slide that won at the Great Plains Nature Photographers (GPNP) meeting. Congratulations, Terry! This was a nice image of a columbine flower. Terry thinks he used a color-enhancing filter on this shot. This filter brings out the reds in the image. He showed slides of a rose that was a peach color, but appeared to be red. He used the filter, a bottle of spray water, and an off-camera flash.

Sheila Rohrer showed her slides of the Wolf Park trip. She had a good shot of Dan with a wolf and some close-ups, including whipped cream on a wolf’s face. The wolves like it!

Marie’s slides were next. She had shots of the covered bridge at Bridgeton (this was in Park County, Indiana, on the way to Wolf Park), plus the wolves. She actually got shots of Maya and Erin (two elusive female wolves who were being stalked while we were there by the alpha female, Marion)! She ended her show with slides of some of us at the GPNP meeting taken in front of a horse statue made out of chrome steel automobile bumpers at Wichita State University.

Tracy showed slides of the Wolf Park trip as well, including some of the staff and club members with the wolves, and the coyote and foxes.

Wayne’s slides followed. He took his at Powell Gardens about two months ago. He went out for the orchid show, but there were not as many orchids to shoot as he thought there would be, so he played around a bit instead. He shot slides with and without flash to compare the effect. He also used various f-stops to experiment. With a Tamron 90 macro with 2x converter, he was able to get some tight shots of just the flower reproductive parts. He checked auto-bracketing, with several center-weighted shots at -.3, -.7, and 0. He used a ring flash that fits around the front of the lens instead of above. He was using a tripod and sitting on a stool. Since this was inside with no wind, he was able to get some shots that had 15-second exposures.

The meeting formally adjourned at 8:40 p.m., but we were then free to eat treats provided by Tracy and look at the various photos that members had brought to share.

The next meeting will be on June 18 at 7 p.m. We will meet at Zoo Ops for a brief discussion and then go shoot photos outside of Deramus, so bring your camera gear!

                            -- Tracy Goodrich